The Watts' house reminds me of a size 14 girl squeezing into a size 6 dress. They got married around 2002/2003 and divorced around 2007/2008. Shanann was born January 10, 1984 in New Jersey to Frank Rzucek and Sandra Onorati Rzucek. HEARTBREAKING images show the soiled clothing and underwear mother Shanann Watts was wearing when she was brutally murdered by her husband alongside her two daughters. She had sold her mansion in NC after they hightailed it outta there, in a hurry. What if he really doesnt love me anymore? And worse he crushed his own murdered childrens skulls through a narrow opening into an oil drum. Most states are nowadays. Thank you all for this thread. One of the jobs typically associated with psychopaths are salespeople. And she had some scam going in CO. My guess is she was using the kids SS# to get clean lines of credit. And isnt it a fucker that the Topix forums went away? R135, the timing of the name change seems to perfectly coincide with her fleeing from North Carolina and the Shan'annigens she had been involved in there. This is sweet as well. LEONARD actually did not know SHANANNs last name until a few days ago. Please complete the process by verifying your email address. Does anyone know if hes made any statements or has spilled any tea? But DL is the only forum that doesn't immediately shut down even the slightest criticism of this woman. I'm not at all surprised she was able to get the $ to build and furnish that house. Of course, I could make up a few believable stories about someone like this, too. Fact: Hisham was married and had children when Shanann worked there. The description of what he did to those little girls. Perhaps they were close at one time. https://shakedowntitle.com/2018/09/30/dirty-south-customs-shananns-dirty-little-secret/. Yes, people were buying things they could afford, but this That doesnt make sense. Anyone have a guess as to why Chris was so brutal with his daughters? R230, Guuurrrl, this is the only place we're allowed to talk about her Munchausen's and Munchausen's by Proxy. She shared every fucking thing on social media. She was 25. CBI interview with Shan'ann's childhood friend. She was game to go camping and didnt take five hours to do her makeup and hair and nails. John Forbes officiating. Grahm Coder says repeatedly, Help us bring them out of the cold." Watts, a 33-year-old Colorado oil worker, killed his wife, Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant, along with his two daughters aged three and four on August 13, 2018. Why was their marriage not going well? A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. Watts' wife was 15 weeks pregnant. What evidence is there that Shanann was making up her diagnosis of Lupus, whether or not she was "a hypochondriac and OCD"? On a waitress/retail managers salary. She left her own recorded testimony and out of her own mouth she indictes herself. https://www.wltx.com/article/news/slain-mom-2-daughters-had-been-in-sc-just-weeks-before-their-deaths/101-585544417, Was just being nosey and googling, do you think this is the same Arie King in N.C? $150,000 equity would have been swallowed up by realtor fees leaving the two of them not much. She wanted a Lexus. Watts was convicted of strangling his wife, Shanann, 34, in the house and then smothering his daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, at his work site. That was also around the time she was diagnosed with lupus. And Chris shouldve bolted before, or right after, that ridiculous 2015 BK, where it was largely due to his wifes spending and the fact that she quit her real job. Pediatricians screen for it as a matter of course. Just stunning. Chris Watts has not been officially charged, with the deadline for them to be filed on Monday afternoon. How did they qualify for such a large mortgage with the former bankruptcy etc. R55, Shananns mother signed as a guarantor for their CO home. 05:02 GMT 17 Aug 2018 The person who deserves the credit for masterminding this sick scheme is Nichol Kessinger. Shanann was married once before she married Chris to a man named Leonard King, an attorney in North Carolina. "Chris Watts Just Snapped" "Why wasn't Shan'ann's body dumped into the oil tanks as well?" #Shakedown's Call on the Chris Watts Case: The Bodies were "Processed" Perhaps Chris thought that as well. And its interesting to see how people defend her nauseating videos (it was for her JOB!) and bitchiness to her husband and children (I boss my husband. When their marriage was not going so well, SHANANN poured herself into work, worked a lot and stopped coming home at night. He described how he did it. He withdrew the girls from school before the cops got involved. 107: Chris was cheating, so he had no power. LEONARD said that he was very interested in marriage counseling and they went to a couple sessions, but it was virtually impossible to engage SHANANN in conversation. R145, youre right about that. Shanann Watts was 15 weeks pregnant, and appeared to be happily married, according to Atkinson. LEONARD denied that he currently had any policies on her life. Shanann Watts, 34, had two young daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste - who went by CeCe-, 3, with Chris Watts. She was the store manager. The other thing that made me think he dated her because her nickname implies she has hanann was bitchy and competitive and condescending. He definitely deserves life in prison - what he did was disgusting. Why is he being so cold? And then she does the usual bulldozer thing (she just couldnt help it) and buys a self-help book and demands he read it and write a fucking book report on it. I think he snapped. Unlike you, who apparently defines his evaluation of a situation by what he is spoon-fed, rather than by investigating for himself, or by asking questions about the LE interpretation of data. Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche], TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE Visit the post for more. That doesn't mean that is what happened here, but it's not that cut & dry. If so she more recently passed away as well at only 33 and leaving their 6 year old with neither mom or dad just tragic https://www.forbisanddick.com/obituaries/Arie-King/#!/Obituary. for your pointless bitchery needs. There were rumors that she was banging her boss, Hisham. How did they pay off the $400k debt? At home they would be in different rooms and she was always too busy for what LEONARD had going on. Shannan did indeed feed Bella and CeCe Thrive K. Heres an inspiring video with comments to tell you how wonderful it was. My god, as much as I cannot stand Shannan, Jennifer and Sarah Hart were much worse! Reinventing the spelling of a name is for high school kids. I believe the rumor that she was embezzling money, and thats how she got that first house. R157, you're right. Everybody was buying houses they couldn't afford and hoping to flip them for an easy profit. That can occur when a nerd suddenly becomes hot or he's just a crazy. I assume she was young and fit back then? It reminds me of the wasteland between Gatsbys mansion and the City. It doesnt matter what her past mistakes may or may not have been. A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. She alienated Chris from his friends. I followed the Hart murders, too. Stealing the kids identities? R143: She didnt change her name. He is average, and he brutally murdered his entire family. Chris should be let out of prison and given the chance to be hot again. Didnt like his Mustang, made him sell it. I spoke with LEONARD KING ( ) by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. Then he killed his daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3 at his job site on an oil field. Women like that can get him to do anything. Excellent observation, R228. Meanwhile, she was torturing and starving her children. When they have to explain themselves preemptively or repeatedly, watch out. I thanked LEONARD for his time. Text and recorded audio files were released by Colorado officials Thursday after an in-prison interview with Chris Watts. No, not at all R256. I would love to have a conjugal visit Chris Watts! But I do view him as a victim. She didnt realize how controlling she became, according to his accusations. Connect to the World Family Tree to find out, Source: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/192280780/shan_ann-cathryn-rzucek, Jan 10 1984 - Passaic, Passaic, New Jersey, United States, Aug 13 2018 - Erie, Boulder, Colorado, United States, Bella Marie Watts, Celeste Cathryn Watts, Nico Lee Watts, Source: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/192280791/bella-marie-watts, Clifton, Passaic County, New Jersey, United States, Frederick, Weld County, Colorado, United States, Bethesda Cemetery, Aberdeen, Moore County, North Carolina, United States, North Carolina, Mecklenburg County Marriage Index, 1884-2019, Burial of Shan'ann C. King-Watts (Rzucek), Aberdeen, Moore County, North Carolina, United States. If he had killed Sham'ann before she was pregnant and left the kids alive, he wouldve had a chance at pleading temp insanity. ACTION TAKEN: CBI Agent GALBRAITH interviewed LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018. You are a complete moron if you think she killed her kids. I listened to the RedHanded podcast posted upthread. Shanann was going to become just like her mother and Chriss mother. Too bad there wasn't a trial so we can hear it all, because it was too actual to be ignored. The 500K was in 2015as of 2018, they were about 100K in debt (student loans, etc.) Dirty South has some shitty Yelp reviews. I remember she mentioned in her video discussing this time period she portrayed herself as a hard worker that put him through school. Not sure how often that happens even though Im still friends with my sons ex-wife but it would be very hard not to like her, There is an interview of an ex-girlfriend . Shanann Watts, 34, posted the photo of the shrouded doll on August 9, days before police say she and her daughtersCeleste, three, and Bella, four, were killed in their Frederick, Colorado home, on the northern outskirts of Denver. Rinse and repeat in Colorado except the down payment probably came out of Chris's and/or her parents (who also filed bk) bank accounts. Why are some posters feel the need to say that the toddlers are "ugly". I do agree that Kessinger had more involvement than she pretended. It was all so odd. She then went to work in Charlotte, NC for a middle eastern guy that owned a tire and wheel business called Dirty South. I'd consider being three months behind on her mortgage, a husband cheating on her, credit card debt in the tens of thousands at least, and being pregnant were a few of her bigger problems, r51. Its crazy & I just dont understand it. It was reported that she made $80,000 a year. The mother seemed to know or assume that her two daughters had staged the creepy dead doll, writing around 2.30pm: 'At least they covered the body together. She was supposed to have left with the kids due to being upset. Chris was a real bore, apparently. 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