Not exactly Dan, but Dan-esque. MANDEL RESPONDS: Its interesting. This is the main character of a TV show, and you relish in her horribleness. In Selina's final sceneat least one in which she is not in a casketshe reflexively called out for Gary in the Oval Office, only to have new staffer Keith (Andy Daly) remind her that Gary is gone. And in some ways, perhaps even some of the postpartum depression was ultimately all really connected to Selina To me, the day they walked out of that convention, in the cab to the airport, she probably surprised Marjorie by laughing at something. It took that. And the camera finds her contemplating it, like struck that its happening. Given Garys history with Selina that breakup, the Labor Day event, the mysterious garbage bags and so much more was this new level of depravity totally unexpected? Catherine, Gary, Tibet, and pristine federal lands are just some of the collateral damage in this mad dash to the Oval Office. You dont really want Selina to be president, you kind of want Julia to be president. ", "You look beautiful," he said, loyal to the very end that he did not know was here. Your legacy lives on in your children and that is a prime example, where her daughter is celebrating her demise and her death. How did you keep those emotions in check? After 'Veep's' series finale, Tony Hale speaks to The Hollywood Reporter about the betrayal and flash-forward reveal for his character Gary Walsh. There were a couple of comedies: Atlanta was in there, I think Better Call Saul had a very funny clip, because theyre a comedy-drama kind of a thing. And that never came to pass. So the other nine, most of them were dramas. I always catered it to Gary just treating what she was saying as an everyday request and never considering what she was really asking. And yet, two-and-a-half decades later, Gary still showed up at Selina's funeral, looking haggard and war-torn. 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And maybe the first time weve seen Bens guard down a little bit too, just in the expression of his emotion. Right before she hit the stage in Charlotte to accept her party's nomination for president, she tried to prepare Gary for what was about to hit him, while he tried to prepare her for the spotlight with a special lipstick. To me, it wasnt always about Trump, but it was the symptoms that allowed Trump to exist, and the things that he has wrought. He has no clue what is about to happen as they celebrate her nomination. Im game. I think he has forgiven her. So much for Labor Day loyalty. I did what I was supposed to do. What Selina did was the biggest gift to Gary, because thats the only thing that would have broken the cycle for him, Hale now tells The Hollywood Reporter. Its not what comes later when shes alone but its that moment of, its like a chill runs down your body because you get the sense that a little chill is running down her. It was very satisfying for him. Because if it wasnt supposed to be happening, she would have run out and been like, What are you doing? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Theseries finale betrayal was heartbreaking to watch. First off, the fact that Gary has beenseparated from Selina now that shes President has been emotional suicide for him. To me, what defines the worst is that theres nothing you can do. TVLINE | Do you think she backs down out of fear that Gary might use this information to hurt her? They were putting those two things together and thinking that education is bad, and Im sorry, I think thats wrong. On a personal note, Mandel says the Rizzoli & Isles writers were wonderful neighbors. On the contrary. Thatd be great. I wanted to come out and remind people just what Veep was. When we learn that Richard Splett [Sam Richardson] becomes a historic two-term president, it feels like some reward and justice in this cold, cruel world. Anytime someone leaves the room, as far as Im concerned, those ghosts of Christmas past will be there. I think he could be a great boss if he somehow liked you, or thought you were like, his guy. Obviously hes got a hair-trigger temper, but I do think the sun can shine from Jonah, he says. We definitely liked the idea of what he went into was interesting. I dont know quite what hes doing there, but its kind of wonderful., ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: Mandel admits some of his questions werent necessarily designed to be answered. That being said, hes a simple soul. So yeah, there was just a lot of joy. Not really, he says. Entertainment Weekly is a registered trademark of Meredith Corporation All Rights Reserved. But history cannot deny how many times she ran for the presidency and how badly she wanted it. Its the darkest moment for Selina and for the show. "I wanted to say a word about sacrifice," she said. But I so respect his decision. I just want to determine who really is the human crutch in their relationship. Another popular suggestion: Jonah ends up running for president either opposing Selina or with her help. But then when he gets out and she dies, his entire identity was based in her, so her dying meant that a portion of him was also dying. I mean, the fact that he says, Im fing everything to you is just Gary would never in his wildest dreams have thought to talk to his queen that way. He was ready to do whatever she asked. The truth is, shed done so many horrible things over the course of [the show], you had to dig deep to make it real. Whose future outcome amused you the most? She made eye contact with Gary, who looked at her for help as he was being led away, to which she simply looked away and continued the speech that she had swiped from the war hero. Andrew owns a large company, which is revealed to have funded both sides of the 2012 presidential election. This is not exactly an answer, but Id kind of love to see a sit-down between Ben and Saul. MANDEL RESPONDS: Sadly, I think theyre right, he says. (Laughs.) I think it would have suited him quite well, and I would have really enjoyed seeing him in one of those dental smock things.. That could be enjoyable. Even her saying the line, I couldnt have done it without you. Or me saying to her, Youre not going to have to. We all care about each other so much and there was a lot of emotion wrapped up in shooting that episode. It wasnt for the finale; it was just to have been a jump ahead to the funeral, the idea being that they plan the funeral, something gets messed up, and now youre seeing the funeral, and youre seeing the things she wanted to not happen. So it was just a genuine expression of having missed her, but also having been really glad that she showed up. While the titular role in Selena: The Series will be taken on by . But Im guessing it was all very like an angry divorced couple that kind of bumps into each other at the lawyers office. Garys known her a long time and, as we know, shes not the purest lady. So Im surprised in terms of her own survival that she did that. '", The scene, which illustrated the karmic punishment that had been meted out to her, served as an appropriate cautionary ending to a show steeped in corrosive cynicism and selfishness, according to Hale. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I didnt say it was Tom Hanks specifically but I said I hope he digs it because theres a pretty cool nod to the pilot. When she says to him, I need you to do a favor for me. Going to jail was never in the cards of that favor in Garys mind. That's why he went back. It was not lasting remorse. "She wasn't loving the idea of him being . When Kent is basically bellowing at Selina and kind of losing it a little bit, the camera finds Amy there. She was aware of what she was doing. "Today the world mourns the loss of this towering and beloved figure," intoned Mike, and as he moved to face the wrong camera, the last words by a character on Veep were spoken: "Let's take a look at the storied career of Tom Hanks, American icon. The very first Labor Day in the country was celebrated in 1882, and it became an official federal holiday in 1894. Was one of the messages of the finale, If you have been rooting for Selina all along, you chose very poorly, and were here to not-gently remind you of that?That is the wonderful thing. The joke of Tom Hankss death bumping news of hers is the ultimate karmic payback and a wonderful, wicked callback to the pilot. Did she ever find out that he was alive, and did he close out any shady deals at her funeral?Id like to think at some point, they had contact, or she probably had to give him some more money at some point. ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Weve known who Selina was for seven seasons, but this season and this finale in particular took it to the next level and showcased just how ruthless and self-serving she is. We had this really nice moment after the screening, just kind of catching up and a little bit of chit-chatting. It was actually Frank Rich, our executive producer, who then jumped to, What if its Tom Hanks? I had gone back and rewatched everything again, and so, the pilot was definitely fresh in my mind. I do think Gary is a much better version of himself during that funeral, definitely. She is everything that is bad about politics: no real vision or drive to lead via policy decisions. this link is to an external site that may or may not meet accessibility guidelines. Not exactly that story, per se, but just the notion of Gary on his own,' he says. The coming to terms with what youve done and what you did is somewhat horrific. So, when she first mentioned Gary, theres just this subtle thing on her face thats just so wonderful. That they murdered somebody just too easy, Mandel says. But In the age of reboots, we must ask: Is there any chance that Veep will come back in any form, down the road?At least for the moment, Ive said everything I have to say about these people and this world. On Sundays Veep, Selinas long-suffering aide Gary stopped being polite and started getting really angry at his boss, resulting in a jaw-dropping confrontation that was three years in the making. "Because she's in the casket. Its so incredibly gratifying. If you like TVLine, you'll LOVE our email news alerts! ", Hale had dropped a hint about the finale before it aired, "You reap what you sow," and he seems to apply that to Gary almost as much as Selina. I moved for the past seven years anytime she said that and the fact that I had to stay there was like, 'Aww, dammnit! Veep deliberately feints, more than once, toward real, textual tragedySelina's horrible, accidental execution of her ex-husband, Andrew ( David Pasquesi ), or Amy's suspicion that . Even with all the dysfunction and all the abuse, he did have this almost spiritual love for her. Richard (Sam Richardson) became a two-term POTUS! Not the way they talked about it, no., Its related to Selinas off-camera miscarriage, revealed in Season 1s Full Disclosure. Its hard to imagine it being something that they had already talked about. The Murder of Selena occured on March 31, 1995 after Selena was shot to death by Yolanda Saldivar (who was the president of her fan club) Selena's death received international attention and the public reaction to it was compared to those that followed the deaths of John Lennon, Elvis Presley and John F. Kennedy. Durch Klicken auf Alle akzeptieren erklren Sie sich damit einverstanden, dass Yahoo und unsere Partner Ihre personenbezogenen Daten verarbeiten und Technologien wie Cookies nutzen, um personalisierte Anzeigen und Inhalte zu zeigen, zur Messung von Anzeigen und Inhalten, um mehr ber die Zielgruppe zu erfahren sowie fr die Entwicklung von Produkten. I root for her because of amazing acting by her actor. Or, put more bluntly by Eman Abdelmouty: Shes the absolute worst. The betrayal and flash-forward outcome solidified Selinas monstrous transformation and yet, if you ask Hale, he has a surprising take on how it all played out. Its fun to go over memories. For this rotted-out soul, was it all worth it?This is my honest opinion. Selina, bitter with Doyle after the debacle in Season 5, begins grooming Jonah to run under the condition that he appoints her Secretary of State, and in return, shell finance his campaign. Shell never allow herself to sit in those feelings, but she does feel them and then stuffs them down and turns it back on. And were going to see him again. "That is the end result.". When push comes to shove, shes a scorpion. !, Matt Walsh) was about to deliver a heartfelt eulogy about Selina to his viewers, but in the ultimate karmic-cruel joke, he had to cut his report short to cover more important breaking news: the death of Tom Hanks. By 1894, 23 more states had adopted the holiday, and on June 28, 1894 . Theres an anger there, like, Im here but f you. Even with the lipstick I think theres even still a little bit of that, and then he cant help himself. Oh, yeah. she concluded. It was really, really fun to do. But its that same street fighter that then continues to do all of those other horrible things. Why am I here? It just was so stunning to hear the language in this giant ballroom at the Four Seasons. I think for the rest of her life she will tell herself it was worth it. Not sensing any approaching doom, Gary asked if she wanted coffee from across the street and pointed out that it was a chia seed in her mouth. People started laughing, and then it just started that kind of rolling laughter, because youd watched nine shows of very clean, normal clips, and then all of a sudden Julia just called down hellfire. How Marvel went big with Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania. And it was very funny, too, because there was no next clip. He was expecting a phone call to be released and bailed out and apologies and all that kind of stuff. That scarily driven, win-at-all costs side of Selina is a hideous sight to behold, except when it comes to the brutal, satisfying comeuppance of Tom James (Hugh Laurie). Shes about to become president again and that is the biggest joy of Garys life. And then picked up right where we were [laughs], right back to that sort of withering stare. Its like, what the hell are you doing, dude? So I think later in life he might have seen how ridiculous that was and let himself go a little bit and freed up. From what I remember, I think we did the scene several times before the balloons. I mean, Dan is with who he wants to be. Thats why we have climate deniers, we have anti-vaxxers, and we are seeing what those things wrought. Whatever happened earlier in the day where she made the push and obviously it didnt go, she was all in. Maybe at that moment she sticks her toe in that regret pond, but then quickly pulls it out, and moves forward with her miserable selfalone, and without anyone or anything in her life of meaning. At some point or another, I think I whispered that she won. Hell hath no fury like a perpetually under-appreciated, eternally . Was the attitude in the writers room this season one of The cruelty, ignorance and hypocrisy in this world needs an equal and opposite force more than ever, or was it Its our last season, so lets adopt a scorched Earth policy, or maybe a bit of both?I go for a little bit of both, and Ill throw a third thing in. If she had asked the question, do you think would Gary have sacrificed himself? "You'd hate the flowers but I I brought the Dubonnet," he says to her flag-draped coffin, a cocktail of emotions flooding his weary voice. How did you arrive at that outcome? And in this case, she didnt even say it, she had the FBI guys come and grab me. And then he puts a blindfold on, plays the tape, and just starts reaching in the bag for the items. As he prepared to personally sing her praises with his "own heartfelt eulogy" of the "underrated" president, he received breaking news in his earpiece that beloved actor Tom Hanks had passed at the age of 88. Sort of a Biden to his Obama. ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: While multiple fans would enjoy seeing Gary sleep with a Russian spy (Oh lord, Mandel says), Cecille had another idea for him: Gary actually quitting or getting fired from his post? I dont remember whose idea that was, but It was a really nice distraction from the weight of what was going on. How does he view her now? Its completely void of any joy. What do you think was in the bag (s)? That cant hit her until the White House. Did you feel the weight of it while you were shooting it? She has to be thinking, This is bad right now and this is a little bit bad for me, but I dont think she can be thinking about how horrific the rest of her life is going to be. My story is that Im super bummed its over! I think we cried the entire way shooting through the last episode. Yeah. By Julia Louis-Dreyfus., MANDEL RESPONDS: Hearing that last answer, Mandel can only laugh: Have our standards for what a president is dropped so far in the last two years that this is what were saying is good about Selina Meyer? But looking at the big picture I find that [two-thirds number] fascinating, because I think shes a horrible person! As for the others: I understand the Jonah one, but I think theres an opportunity if youre the right person. And youre right, he did look rough. This shouldnt be.. But one cant be surprised by everything horrific and morally bankrupt that she does after seeing her in action like that.Were taking advantage of something that Ive talked a lot about, which is people sometimes say to themselves, Oh, I want Selina to be president. And its always like, Well, no. ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: Yes, 85 percent of people said theyd like to know what Gary and Selina were referring to in Season 4s legendary East Wing blowup when he yelled, Can you find somebody else who did what I did? and she responded, You mean on Labor Day? About half of those people, without provocation, also added that theyd like to know what was in the trash bag that Selina made Gary retrieve in Season 2s Shutdown. The 15 percent who said no to a Labor Day reveal feel as Eman does: Some things are more beautiful when left unexplained., MANDEL RESPONDS: I didnt know the trash bag was on their minds quite as much, but thats fascinating. Gary is constantly getting beat up, so anytime theres an opportunity for a blowup where he can actually express himself, Im in. So thats what she did, which is not exactly healthy. American adaptation of The Thick of It and a Spiritual Successor to the American . He would rather be attacked and cussed at and abused than be distanced from her. And so, Julia e-mailed him, and then we got back this very quick auto-response, that was like, Im traveling. We once played with an idea that when you jumped to the future and Richard was president, and he might have asked her to be his vice president in the future sort of a little bit of a gray-haired, foreign policy expert to his younger, more novice politician. On Sunday night, the series finale of HBOs Emmy-winning, cynical-to-its-corroded-core comedy answered: To hell. (Based on @Walldo tweet) pic.twitter.com/aZpKydSbkn, Jesse McLaren (@McJesse) March 31, 2017, ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: We all know attempts at sarcasm dont always translate well in print. I think he might view Selina with a little more empathy and compassion. Hes definitely not meant for prison. She wasnt completely disconnected. Before he walked out the door with his box, he would be back working with her. ", Taking the stage and securing her second shot at historyhistory that she felt was hers to claimSelina addressed the crowd. Tricky. MANDEL RESPONDS: As far as Gary and Selina parting ways, We think about that. The 15 percent who said no to a Labor Day reveal feel as Eman does: "Some things are more beautiful when left unexplained.". The First Labor Day. Shes a scientist. When history looks back on Selina Meyer, Im not sure anyone will ever have anything great to say about her being vice president or either of the times she was president. We spend so much time trying to make the irrational rational and hes thinking, Theyre gonna wake up, theyre gonna wake up. She never did. ", The flash-forward to the funeral gave glimpses of how everyone in Selina's orbit turned out: Jonah (Timothy Simons) was impeached! MANDEL RESPONDS: I think that speaks to whats going on in America, to the anti-intellectualization, he says. After this [fight], theyre close again. 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